Game Designers Workshop

Oct 27, 2004 five past four pm

Late last week I headed to Seattle for the 5th annual Game Designers Workshop, which is a group of game designers that focus on story in games.  As usual, it was the most interesting 2 days I've spent in the last year.  I got the chance to meet some of the great people responsible for the Matrix Online and City of Heroes, plus numerous others and it was the first time I've met Al Lowe.

The format of the conference (which consists of 30 people sitting around a large table) is amazingly energizing.  At the beginning of the two days, a sheet is passed around and everyone signs up for a 40 minute session to talk about anything they want.  While I'm sure you could sign up to talk about motorcycle repair or international policy for Antarctic exploration, most people stick to the topic of game design and some even manage to stick to the conference theme of story-telling in games.

When your time slot comes around, you make a quick 2 or 3 minute introduction to your topic and then you moderate a round-table style discussion.  How focused the discussion is depends on each person hosting the time slot.  Some become round-table nazi's, keeping everyone on topic, others just let things go where they go.  Either way, it's hard to get bored.

After the conference, I headed to Eastern Oregon to spend some time with my parents.  Yesterday, I discovered they have a complete collection of every game I've made or worked on, from Graphics Basic to the short lived Maniac Mansion box that was banned from Toys-R-Us because it had the word "lust" on the back.

I've also been reading all the comments about my last article, both here and scattered around the Internets and it's been fascinating.  Once I get home, I'll write a follow-up addressing some of the issues brought up and make some adjustments to the plan.

Go Redsox

Other people's comments:

Posted by Udvarnoky on Oct 27, 2004 half past four pm

So that's why they changed this for the re-releases...

Posted by Rodi on Oct 27, 2004 quarter to five pm

Sounds like a swell conference. I'd like to visit stuff like that some day, when I'm a biiiiig rockstar (not the company) gamedesigner.

You sure did get a lot of responses to that exhaustive last post of yours. I have to admit that at one point I didn't read it anymore because it was getting in the way of some serious deadlines I had to fulfill ^_~ You sure do spark some controversy!

Posted by spaceship789 on Oct 28, 2004 half past five am

Quite a revealing back cover. That list reads like a cultural snapshot of 1987.

I guess like the Sims is a cultural snap shot of today.

Would love to hear an article of what the main influences of Maniac Mansion were. If you play the game, you notice tonnes, and discover more with more eighties (and seventies) movies you watch. But it would be good to what know the main influences were.

Posted by Someone on Oct 28, 2004 twenty to seven am

Internets.  Ha.

Posted by eloj on Oct 28, 2004 twenty five past seven am

I'm guessing everyone here has read The Expurgation of Maniac Mansion for the Nintendo Entertainment System, but I'll link it in just in case some newbie is around.

I love it. It's so fuc... I mean.. it's so "darn gosh" funny.

Posted by Scott Miller on Oct 28, 2004 twenty five to nine am

I've been to this conference and it's very well done and focused -- probably a lot like the original Chris Crawford run CGDC back in its first few years.

I didn't go this year simply because another writer who was originally asked to go, was later un-asked, and IMO only for unsavory political reasons.  This person had written a very successful book on writing game stories, and was enjoying tremendous success, with a flood of projects and growing fame.  Apparently, this success rubbed certain members of the GDW the wrong way, and so he was un-invited.  Because I'm friends with this person, I elected to not attend, too.  I despise this sort of jealously and political BS.  I tried to find out exactly why he was uninvited, and was told that I could not be told.  That usually indicates an embarrassing, petty reason is at work.

Would have loved to have met you, Rob.

Posted by SiN on Oct 28, 2004 ten past nine am

Would have loved to have met you, Rob.
Surely you mean Ron, yeah? :)

Certainly sounds like a great time. I would have loved to attend something like this, even as a spectator. Since I program games on a near-daily basis, it would be alot of fun to have gameplay based discussions with the real big shots of gaming.

Someday, someday ...


SiN

Posted by netmonkey on Oct 28, 2004 twenty five past four pm

Man, your parents are really big fans because I don't even have a box for Maniac Mansion...

Posted by speon on Oct 28, 2004 twenty five to six pm

But it would be good to what know the main influences were.

Skywalker Ranch?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that Maniac Mansion was done in, or very near, Skywalker Ranch and helped inspire the Mansion.

Posted by Ron Gilbert on Oct 28, 2004 quarter to six pm

I seem to recall reading somewhere that Maniac Mansion was done in, or very near, Skywalker Ranch and helped inspire the Mansion.

Yes, that is true.  The bulk of the game was done while Luasfilm Games was at Skywalker Ranch and the mansion is a parody of the building called "the Main House", most notably the library and the spiral staircase.

You can see some pictures here

Posted by PerryR on Oct 29, 2004 half past seven am

So that's what's above the library. Kind of disenchanting.

Posted by spaceship789 on Oct 31, 2004 five to eleven pm

After a peek around the net, I found some maniac mansion concept art:

http://members.fortunecity.com/harang/conceptart.html

Its fascinating to know what the original vision was like!

Posted by Paalikles on Nov 6, 2004 quarter past midnight

Posted by Jeff Atchison on Jul 2, 2005 ten to nine pm

Ron, go talk to Chris he's working a presudo TA2 (as I'm sure your aware of) you might need to kick him a few times to get him to work. GL with what ever comes next. Might also want to bug Brad and Jason over at REAL/Games.

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